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Location: Hampshire. Model: Yeti 1.2 TSI 105PS DSG in Brilliant Silver. Posted 18 October, 2013. On 18/10/2013 at 08:00, Brijo said: Although it's a rarely mentioned factor in making this decision, you really should remember that the DSG offers significantly improved MPG for the driver's left arm and leg. I agree.
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Rider Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 570 Witam! Jestem w trakcie dorabiania klucza do mojej SKODZINKI i nie wiem kt贸ry z tych kluczy wybrac. Czy to po prostu jaki艣 "chwyt"?? Sprzedawca ten sam Mam nadziej 偶e mi kto艣 tu pomo偶e. Z g贸ry dzieki RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 2341 Auto: Superb III (3V3) Octavia I: ASV TDI VP 110 KM Octavia II: CDAA TSI 160 KM Octavia III: CHHB TSI RS 220 KM [O2] (160KM) vs. TDI (170KM) Pytanie do os贸b, kt贸re je藕dzi艂y takimi wersjami jak w temacie, czyli standardowa Octavia ze 160-konnym TSI i wersja RS ze 170-konnym dieslem. Kt贸ra wersja da wi臋cej rado艣ci z jazdy ? Chodzi tylko o fun, zupe艂nie nie interesuj膮 mnie koszty eksploatacji. Wersja RS ma oczywi艣cie lepsze zawieszenie, ale jak to wygl膮da od strony osi膮g贸w. Katalogowo obie wersje s膮 bardzo zbli偶one: TSI: 8,2s do setki i vmax 222km/h TDI: 8,5s do setki i vmax 224km/h Ale to s膮 suche liczby, a jasne jest, 偶e silniki maj膮 zupe艂nie r贸偶ne charakterystyki pracy (inny moment obrotowy i zakres u偶ytecznych obrot贸w). St膮d moje pytanie, kt贸r膮 wersj膮 fajniej si臋 je藕dzi ? bez problemu da si臋 zawirusowa膰 na ok. 200KM. Czy z TSI jest tak samo ? Jest ju偶 jaka艣 klubowa Octavia z tym silnikiem po wirusie ? S3 SL TSI DSG 4x4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link Alfa Romeo Stelvio AT8 Q4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link ------------------------------------------------------------------------- O3 RS TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2016-2018 link O2 TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2009-2014 O1 TDI [[email protected]] 2004-2010 Komentarz Moderator S_OCP MemberModeratorr Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 25800 Auto: Audi A nowy Superb moze byc?? ciagnie z dolu i do momentu jak nie chcemy wciskac do deski to jezdzi sie tym jak TDI, ale od tych 4 tys pojawia sie dopiero dzwiek silnika gdzie wcale nie jest cicho i wtedy wychodzi druga mlodosc tego silnika, ale obrotomierz i tak za chwile sie konczy :twisted: TDI CR 170KM jezdzi, nie ma turbo dziury i w calym zakresie idzie to bez przeszkod, w polaczeniu z DSG wypada bardzo fajnie. W OII jest niestety inny silnik a tym nie jezdzilem. 11 czy tam 12l srednio TDI 8l srednio Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 8121 Z tego co wiem, to ani jednego ani drugiego nie da si臋 modyfikowa膰 elektronicznie - przynajmniej w tej chwili. Bo rozumiem, ze o TDI m贸wimy tym nowym - czyli o common-rail? TDI 205PS Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 2341 Auto: Superb III (3V3) Octavia I: ASV TDI VP 110 KM Octavia II: CDAA TSI 160 KM Octavia III: CHHB TSI RS 220 KM To kicha. Ale s膮 chocia偶 jakie艣 perspektywy w najbli偶szej przysz艂o艣ci, czy nikt nie ma poj臋cia co z tym zrobi膰 ? Czy dotyczy to te偶 z RS-a ? S3 SL TSI DSG 4x4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link Alfa Romeo Stelvio AT8 Q4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link ------------------------------------------------------------------------- O3 RS TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2016-2018 link O2 TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2009-2014 O1 TDI [[email protected]] 2004-2010 Komentarz Drive S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 69 Witam. Powiem tak - je偶d偶e Octavk膮 tsi i Pasatem TDI 170 PS (pompowtryski) z DSG. Dynamika podobna - silnik imo fajniejszy w Skodzie ale Pasek zyskuje dzi臋ki DSG. Jezeli masz mo偶liwo艣膰 poczeka膰 - to tylko tsi z 7 biegowym DSG 8) Strona nie zosta艂a odnaleziona Nie wiem czy to nie babaol ale wg tabelki do 100 km Octavia tsi po lifcie ma przyspiesza膰 w 7,8 s - zar贸wno manual i DSG (teraz 8,2s) Pozdr. Macko Komentarz Rider Do艂膮czy艂: 2007 Posty: 451 Hmm zrobic sie da cos napewno widzialem jzu jeden wykresik TFSI dlubnietego na forum A3-club do co tych TDI to niewiem Komentarz Rider Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 288 Sprostowanie Octavia 2 z silnikiem TSI przyspiesza do setki w 8,1 s. Komentarz Rider S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2005 Posty: 745 Auto: Octavia I (1U2) Octavia I: AGU 20VT 150 KM Octavia II: BKD TDI 140 KM Maicroft w TDI CR 170 jest turbodziura... Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2005 Posty: 5893 Auto: Octavia I (1U2) Octavia I: BFQ MPI 102 KM Zamieszczone przez MiKruS Z tego co wiem, to ani jednego ani drugiego nie da si臋 modyfikowa膰 elektronicznie - przynajmniej w tej chwili. :shock: A to nie jest tak samo jak z innymi CR montowanymi w Fokach czy Bravo itp ? Kolejna bariera :evil: By艂a O1 130/280 powered by By艂a O2 143/305 powered by Jest O1 BFQ Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 2341 Auto: Superb III (3V3) Octavia I: ASV TDI VP 110 KM Octavia II: CDAA TSI 160 KM Octavia III: CHHB TSI RS 220 KM Zamieszczone przez twin Sprostowanie Octavia 2 z silnikiem TSI przyspiesza do setki w 8,1 s. Ja poda艂em dane dla kombi. S3 SL TSI DSG 4x4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link Alfa Romeo Stelvio AT8 Q4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link ------------------------------------------------------------------------- O3 RS TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2016-2018 link O2 TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2009-2014 O1 TDI [[email protected]] 2004-2010 Komentarz Moderator S_OCP MemberModeratorr Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 25800 Auto: Audi cieq, Nie taka jak w BKD :idea: Komentarz Drive Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 65 O2 TSI ci膮gnie od samego do艂u do ko艅ca, robisz setk臋 w s i na II biegu :szeroki_usmiech a w TDI musisz jeszcze wrzuci膰 III i zaczyna ci膮gn膮膰 od 1800 wydaje mi si臋 偶e jedynka jest za kr贸tka Komentarz Rider Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 288 Jedynka jest za kr贸tka ?? hehe niezle. Przeciez 1 bieg sluzy jedynie do ruszenia auta. Zalecane jest jechac na nim jak najkrocej. Skoda to okresla jako dlugosc auta Co do ciagniecia auta od samego dolu to prawda. Raz sie zagadalem i zapomnialem zmienic biegu i tak ciagnalem na trojce i potem sie mocno zdziwilem Komentarz Rider S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2007 Posty: 390 Zamieszczone przez twin Przeciez 1 bieg sluzy jedynie do ruszenia auta. Zalecane jest jechac na nim jak najkrocej. Skoda to okresla jako dlugosc auta Ale w korku si臋 przydaje podobnie jak czasami na wielopi臋trowych parkingach. Komentarz Drive Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 87 Ja tesz szukalem troche i chipowaniu silnika TSI i jednak sie da Chip tuning Audi A3 TFSI 160 KM Tez chcialem kupic OII z silnikiem TSI ale niestety nie mieli u dilera wersji demo i dali sie przejechac superbem. Odczucia rewelacyjne. Nie wiem kiedy ale mialem 150km/h na siekierkowskim w warszawie. Cisza w aucie naprawde jest odczuwalna. Specjalnie sprawdzalismy srednie spalanie i wyszlo 11l jednak przy jakims tam katowaniu. Na 6-stce przy 130 mial ponizej 7 spalanie. Jako, ze chcialem kupic Octavie to przejechalem sie jeszcze Kombi TDI 105km no i najpierw jechal kumpel a ja juz nie chcialem prowadzic... Strasznie glosno !!! w srodku plastik i spalanie na tym samym odcinku 10l a to jednak diesel... Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 2341 Auto: Superb III (3V3) Octavia I: ASV TDI VP 110 KM Octavia II: CDAA TSI 160 KM Octavia III: CHHB TSI RS 220 KM Zamieszczone przez adriand To jest BOX, czyli tandeta nie warta uwagi. Cytat: "Z uwagi na posiadana pami臋膰 typu Flash (taka jak najnowszej generacji sterowniki silnik贸w) DPP jest programowalny z pozycji zewn臋trznego programatora. Dost臋pny jest dla system贸w wtryskowych diesla dci tdci tdi (PD oraz CR) jtd jtd-mj hdi cdi i-ctdi cdti did crd crdi d4d ddis i innych. Standardowe ustawienia, opracowane w naszych o艣rodkach badawczych zaspakajaj膮 wi臋kszo艣膰 potrzeb typowego kierowcy (na bazie tych ustawie艅 programowane s膮 DPP sprzedawane wysy艂kowo)." S3 SL TSI DSG 4x4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link Alfa Romeo Stelvio AT8 Q4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link ------------------------------------------------------------------------- O3 RS TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2016-2018 link O2 TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2009-2014 O1 TDI [[email protected]] 2004-2010 Komentarz Drive Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 87 Najlepsze u nich jest to powolywanie sie na Ferrari :-) No nic ja i tak kupie jakas skode z tym silnikiem ale chipowanie i tak bralem pod uwage ale po gwarancji. Wiec cos moze sie pojawi sensownego do tego silnika. a jaki virusik powinien byc aby go nie wykryl serwis? Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2007 Posty: 4297 Auto: Octavia II (1Z3) Octavia II: BXE TDI PD 105 KM Zamieszczone przez adriand a jaki virusik powinien byc aby go nie wykryl serwis? niema takiego virusa kt贸re bo wy ASO nie wykry艂o, pod warunkiem, 偶e b臋d膮 szuka膰 oczywi艣cie. O rany - jedna si贸dma 偶ycia to poniedzia艂ek Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2007 Posty: 6389 Je藕dzi艂臋m Superbem II z obiema jednostkami. Jak dla mnie TSi wydaje sie by膰 bardziej dynamiczny. Lepiej ci膮gnie z do艂u niz TDI. W DTI niestety ale wyczuwalna jest niewielka turbodziura. z tych 2 silnik贸w wybralbym zdecydowanie TSI Czarny Elegance Komentarz Classic Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 4 Tsi po tuningu Zamieszczone przez Big Je藕dzi艂臋m Superbem II z obiema jednostkami. Jak dla mnie TSi wydaje sie by膰 bardziej dynamiczny. Lepiej ci膮gnie z do艂u niz TDI. W DTI niestety ale wyczuwalna jest niewielka turbodziura. z tych 2 silnik贸w wybralbym zdecydowanie TSI Maj膮c troch臋 czasu jak i oczywi艣cie Octavi臋 Tsi znalaz艂em wasze forum. Ciekawe s膮 wasze opinie o tuningu Tsi. Ja skorzysta艂em z oferty tej firmy z Opola tak jak ten Pan kt贸rego opinia jest na ich stronie. Jestem z Krakowa i chcia艂em wzmocni膰 ten silnik u nas w Vtechu , w Masters-ie, u Goguli i oni nic nie mogli z tym zrobi膰. Zreszt膮 zobaczcie sobie jaki efekt daje u nich tuning silnika TSI Chip tuning Audi A4 TFSI 170 KM Nowy system wtryskowy gdy偶 u mnie efekt jest prawie identyczny - seryjnie m贸j silnik mia艂 troch臋 inn膮 charakterystyk臋. Ci膮gnie teraz od samego do艂u znacznie lepiej ni偶 diesel kt贸rego wcze艣niej mia艂em ( te偶 po wirusie), w pe艂ni podzielam ta opini臋 kt贸ra jest na ich stronie od innego go艣cia z Krakowa i wkr贸tce tak偶e moj膮 opinie im prze艣le aby umie艣cili na swojej stronie Chip tuning Audi Tdi - warto do nich przyjecha膰 polecam Tomasz Audi A4 tdi Polecam szybka Skoda Tsi z Krakowa Szybka Octavia Tsi Komentarz Drive S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 69 Zamieszczone przez _tm_ [To jest BOX, czyli tandeta nie warta uwagi. Cytat: "Z uwagi na posiadana pami臋膰 typu Flash (taka jak najnowszej generacji sterowniki silnik贸w) DPP jest programowalny z pozycji zewn臋trznego programatora. Dost臋pny jest dla system贸w wtryskowych diesla dci tdci tdi (PD oraz CR) jtd jtd-mj hdi cdi i-ctdi cdti did crd crdi d4d ddis i innych. Standardowe ustawienia, opracowane w naszych o艣rodkach badawczych zaspakajaj膮 wi臋kszo艣膰 potrzeb typowego kierowcy (na bazie tych ustawie艅 programowane s膮 DPP sprzedawane wysy艂kowo)." Witam. Zacytuj do ko艅ca 8) "Natomiast je偶eli Tw贸j samoch贸d dysponuje systemem wtryskowym Siemens (Tdci, Hdi, Dci) czy Denso (D4D, DiD, Dci) , czy te偶 Turbo benzynowym (Tsi, TFSi, T-JET i inne) to w takim przypadku sprzeda偶 nast臋puje jedynie wraz z indywidualnym strojeniem." Pozdr. Macko Komentarz Drive Do艂膮czy艂: 2008 Posty: 87 Re: Tsi po tuningu [quote="octaviatsi"] Zamieszczone przez Big Ci膮gnie teraz od samego do艂u znacznie lepiej ni偶 diesel kt贸rego wcze艣niej mia艂em ( te偶 po wirusie), w pe艂ni podzielam ta opini臋 kt贸ra jest na ich stronie od innego go艣cia z Krakowa i wkr贸tce tak偶e moj膮 opinie im prze艣le aby umie艣cili na swojej stronie Chip tuning Audi Tdi - warto do nich przyjecha膰 polecam Tomasz Audi A4 tdi Polecam szybka Skoda Tsi z Krakowa A mozesz opisac wiecej jak to wyglada? jak jest podpiete, czy to wyglada jak ten box, czy faktycznie wyniki z hamowni sa takie jak podaja..Cena jest dosc wysoka ale kiedy tez tdi kosztowaly podobnie Komentarz RS S_OCP Member Do艂膮czy艂: 2004 Posty: 2341 Auto: Superb III (3V3) Octavia I: ASV TDI VP 110 KM Octavia II: CDAA TSI 160 KM Octavia III: CHHB TSI RS 220 KM Zamieszczone przez Macko Zamieszczone przez _tm_ [To jest BOX, czyli tandeta nie warta uwagi. Cytat: "Z uwagi na posiadana pami臋膰 typu Flash (taka jak najnowszej generacji sterowniki silnik贸w) DPP jest programowalny z pozycji zewn臋trznego programatora. Dost臋pny jest dla system贸w wtryskowych diesla dci tdci tdi (PD oraz CR) jtd jtd-mj hdi cdi i-ctdi cdti did crd crdi d4d ddis i innych. Standardowe ustawienia, opracowane w naszych o艣rodkach badawczych zaspakajaj膮 wi臋kszo艣膰 potrzeb typowego kierowcy (na bazie tych ustawie艅 programowane s膮 DPP sprzedawane wysy艂kowo)." Witam. Zacytuj do ko艅ca 8) "Natomiast je偶eli Tw贸j samoch贸d dysponuje systemem wtryskowym Siemens (Tdci, Hdi, Dci) czy Denso (D4D, DiD, Dci) , czy te偶 Turbo benzynowym (Tsi, TFSi, T-JET i inne) to w takim przypadku sprzeda偶 nast臋puje jedynie wraz z indywidualnym strojeniem." Tego nie doczyta艂em, ale to chyba nadal jest tylko BOX. Gdyby si臋 da艂o normalnie tuningowa膰 to my艣l臋, 偶e Masters i reszta tuner贸w te偶 by te silniki robili. EDIT: Kolejny cytat: "Z uwagi na specyfik臋 systemu zasilania kt贸ry sterowany jest ca艂kiem nowym sterownikiem MED17 poprawienie parametr贸w jest mo偶liwe dzi臋ki zastosowaniu Digital Power Pack. Digital Power Pack Jest to o tyle ciekawsze i偶 dzi臋ki mo偶liwo艣ci zamontowania dodatkowego sterownika za pomoc膮 fabrycznych z艂膮czy (bezinwazyjnie) mo偶na dokona膰 bezpiecznego i efektywnego poprawienia parametr贸w silnika tak偶e w samochodzie nowym, na gwarancji." Czyli na 100% jest to BOX. S3 SL TSI DSG 4x4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link Alfa Romeo Stelvio AT8 Q4 [[email protected]] 2018-... link ------------------------------------------------------------------------- O3 RS TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2016-2018 link O2 TSI DSG [[email protected]] 2009-2014 O1 TDI [[email protected]] 2004-2010 Komentarz Rider Do艂膮czy艂: 2007 Posty: 451 Nie obrazicie sie chyba jak wrzuce link z innego forum Jest to modyfikacja silnika TFSI tylko tyle ze w S3 ;D TFSI BHZ modyfikowany 409KM/455NM Wiec wg mnie jak ktos chce sprobowac cos to niech zadzwonia do compsportu ;D Komentarz
"Started From The Bottom" #1 FSI VS TDI I currently on a FSI & my Mate has a TDI I want a head to head list of things that make FSI better than the TDI or the other way round. I want to also know if mechanically if 1 engine is better for reliability then the other FSI vs TDI This is my list so far Can Everybody on Please add what you think is a benefit Too Each Engine. Benefits of FSI 1. More Rev聮s 2. Less Engine Noise Benefits Of TDI 1. More MPG 2. More Torque At the end of all this talk I聮ll Post the Winner of What Engine has Won!!!!! Last edited: Mar 16, 2010 #2 Benefits of FSI Benefits of TDI 1. More Economy 2. Cheaper to run 3. Superb when mapped Last edited: Mar 16, 2010 Goner Guest #3 The FSI non turbo can't be quicker than a TDI 140 surely? #4 Just checked parkers. FSI FAIL "Started From The Bottom" #5 Just checked parkers. FSI FAIL So it's not quicker then the TDI ? #6 Nope. If it was TFSI or - it would be alot closer contest. Goner Guest #7 I can't see the FSI being anywhere near as quick as a TDI 140, either from a standing start or it's 'in gear' acceleration. Map the TDI 140 and it will paste the FSI. The TFSI, well that's a different kettle of fish again.. With the correct tuning and driven right, this engine is a right tool. :icon_thumright: Goner Guest #9 One thing that does go in the FSI's favour is that there is no turbo to go wrong, the TDI turbo is an expensive unit to replace when (and i say when because it will) blow. I have just had to fork out 拢650 for a turbo repair and all the other bits and bats that go with it, i managed to do this on the cheap (if you can call it that) through a good friend of the family. The TDI doesn't have a cracking rep for having a bullet proof turbo shall we say, nearly every tuner i spoke to when enquiring about having my TDI mapped told me the turbo on the TDI is a weak point of the engine. :icon_thumright: #10 I see no reason what so ever for buying a FSI (or the actually). Its got to be either a or a in the A3. Or a V6 if you are feeling particularly evil :icon_thumright: "Started From The Bottom" #11 Quick Update.....It's still neck on neck... Benefits of FSI 1. More Rev聮s 2. Less Engine Noise 3. No Turbo ...to go wrong..Less money to spend on when it goes wrong. Benefits Of TDI 1. More MPG 2. More Torque 3. Good to re-map #12 This thread is a bit pointless, like a top trumps only one deck is a loser everytime! The a part from being fairly quiet really has nothing else going for it, its slow, not that much more economical the way less economical then the and not even tuneable. #13 Mate of mine just picked the 20FSI over the TDI as generally they were much cheaper and miles tended to be lower on used cars. He doesnt do many miles and the single frame TDIs were out of his budget. He`s not interested in modding so the FSI limited tuning options didnt matter. So to some the FSI makes a lot of sense. Its not for everyone but personally I dont think all of the criticism the FSI gets is necessarily justified. My 2p Cheers Paul #14 I think they de-tune the FSI for the Cayman. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #15 I hate diesels. Not a fan. However I'd much much rather have a TDI over the FSI. The FSI is underpowered and a pretty rubbish choice for an A3. #16 I've got an FSI and would also say that it gets a bad press on here. When I bought mine I didn't even test drive the TDI, basically because I was thinking that diesels are slow and rubbish. Ok, I was wrong. But since owning my car I've driven a couple of similar aged TDI 140's and I just can't see how anyone who has driven both could possibily say that the TDI is so much better than an FSI. I think what makes the TDI "feel" quicker than the FSI is its low down torque, so you get an immediate shove in the back when you put your foot down (although it runs out pretty quickly), whereas the FSI gives a smoother delivery so doesn't feel as quick. But side by side there is nothing in it. On the flip side, the FSI is slightly quicker to 60 according to their stats, has a bit more bnp, but not enough to mean it really is quicker. If tuning is what is wanted then, yes, forget the FSI. But as standard and to be kept standard there is no noticeable difference in performance between the two, they just offer it in a different way. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #17 I've got an FSI and would also say that it gets a bad press on here. When I bought mine I didn't even test drive the TDI, basically because I was thinking that diesels are slow and rubbish. Ok, I was wrong. But since owning my car I've driven a couple of similar aged TDI 140's and I just can't see how anyone who has driven both could possibily say that the TDI is so much better than an FSI. I think what makes the TDI "feel" quicker than the FSI is its low down torque, so you get an immediate shove in the back when you put your foot down (although it runs out pretty quickly), whereas the FSI gives a smoother delivery so doesn't feel as quick. But side by side there is nothing in it. On the flip side, the FSI is slightly quicker to 60 according to their stats, has a bit more bnp, but not enough to mean it really is quicker. If tuning is what is wanted then, yes, forget the FSI. But as standard and to be kept standard there is no noticeable difference in performance between the two, they just offer it in a different way. The BHP figure is similar for both. But as the TDI has more torque, it does feel quicker. Who cares what it says on paper... #18 The BHP figure is similar for both. But as the TDI has more torque, it does feel quicker. Who cares what it says on paper... The fsi has about 10 bhp more. But you're right, what's on paper doesn't always transfer to the road. The tdi just feels quicker, that's what I said. But really it ain't. #19 I think they de-tune the FSI for the Cayman. And its cheap!! #20 Reasons for FSi over TDi dodgy early cylinder heads cracking turbos blowing at low mileage Dual mass flywheels failing at low mileage EGR valves failing at low mileage FSi easier to pick up with lower mileage Reasons for TDi over FSi More torque, especially if remapped Better fuel economy The FSi isnt THAT slow, is certainly not fast though - I think the 6 speed box makes it seem slower & tall gearing for better MPG doesn't help. Also, catch the turbo off boost..... In my mind if you want a faster car, go for the TDi, if you want a cheaper car to run in the long run - FSi, sure the mpg is better on the TDi but thats soon wiped out by having to replace a turbo or DMF. Most of the taxi drivers in my area have swapped back onto petrol engines for that reason. #21 The fsi has about 10 bhp more. But you're right, what's on paper doesn't always transfer to the road. The tdi just feels quicker, that's what I said. But really it ain't. If I had a PD140 to make it a bit fairer (the 170 I've got would destroy it even if it was still standard) I'd quite happily put it up against a to show its faster. I have no doubt what so ever that it would be. I dont condone racing though #22 If I had a PD140 to make it a bit fairer I'd quite happily put it up against a to show its faster. I have no doubt what so ever that it would be. You'd be wrong, and sad. Been there and done it, quite a few times, and it easily goes either way And as someone has stated, the second you're off boost and left only with DI; well............. What I notice when having a tear ups with PD140's is....... they jump off a bit quicker, but with each of their gear changes I reel them back in quite quickly. And the fact that they've had to change up to about 6th while I'm still in 2nd doesn't help them either! At low revs the FSI is pretty dire, but after getting used to how it drives its pretty easy to adjust your driving style to get the best out of the engine. Keeping revs high really makes a difference. The FSI has a noticeable increase in power somewhere around 3500 rpm and continues well throughout the rest of the range. But like I said, I'm by no means saying that the FSI is a "fast car", but all this talk of it being slow is unfair. And to speak highly of the TDI 140 against the FSI, in their standard forms, makes me think that those who do don't really have experience of driving both. #23 Its all about the tdi I never though that I would be a diesel head "Started From The Bottom" #24 You'd be wrong, and sad. Been there and done it, quite a few times, and it easily goes either way And as someone has stated, the second you're off boost and left only with DI; well............. What I notice when having a tear ups with PD140's is....... they jump off a bit quicker, but with each of their gear changes I reel them back in quite quickly. And the fact that they've had to change up to about 6th while I'm still in 2nd doesn't help them either! At low revs the FSI is pretty dire, but after getting used to how it drives its pretty easy to adjust your driving style to get the best out of the engine. Keeping revs high really makes a difference. The FSI has a noticeable increase in power somewhere around 3500 rpm and continues well throughout the rest of the range. But like I said, I'm by no means saying that the FSI is a "fast car", but all this talk of it being slow is unfair. And to speak highly of the TDI 140 against the FSI, in their standard forms, makes me think that those who do don't really have experience of driving both. Your Right Mate...I own A FSI. And in no way it's Slow...People drive my car and say it's pretty fast. I've also driven my friends TDI and I would stay in terms of speed and power it's on the same level. To put everything to rest I聮m thinking of a race between my car and his car. I'll need to think of a suitable place to race & to film it. I'll post it on a YouTube when everything is done... #25 My PD 140 is an 08, so I wonder if I have turbo problems, hope they happen within the next year anyway, as the warranty runs out V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #26 Your Right Mate...I own A FSI. And in no way it's Slow...People drive my car and say it's pretty fast. That surprises me, my has an extra 100bhp over the FSI and I wouldn't describe that as fast! #27 That surprises me, my has an extra 100bhp over the FSI and I wouldn't describe that as fast! You'd better trade it in for a TDI 140 then. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #28 You'd better trade it in for a TDI 140 then. I'd rather buy a Kia Picanto. #29 I'd rather buy a Kia Picanto. I can see why..... #30 On the track, FSI but on the (real world) roads, TDI then? I'd rarely get the opportunity these days (commute traffic, generally) to take advantage of a petrol engine, so I now enjoy the lively torque of the TDI (CR). Flat6 Brilliant Black Black edition "Started From The Bottom" #33 Me too.... ..That's why my car revs up and down when ideal.. "Started From The Bottom" #34 FSI TDI T T I think I'm going to change my Engine to a T #35 FSI TDI T T I think I'm going to change my Engine to a T Judging by the reports from the TDI I'd take the figures with a handful of salt! "Started From The Bottom" #36 Judging by the reports from the TDI I'd take the figures with a handful of salt! I did'nt know they made a TDI lol "Started From The Bottom" #38 TDI WOW I would still go for the T thou.. Goner Guest #39 I had the TSI (Supercharged Turbo) in my GT Sport TSI 170.. cracking engine, people that slag it.. most of the time have no idea what they are talking about. :icon_thumright: "Started From The Bottom" #40 I had the TSI (Supercharged Turbo) in my GT Sport TSI 170.. cracking engine, people that slag it.. most of the time have no idea what they are talking about. :icon_thumright: Do you know if it Would be possible to change my FSI into a TSI ?
Regulamin forum 1. Temat musi zaczyna膰 si臋 od [S1] lub [S2], a tre艣膰 powinna by膰 taka sama jak ta wyst臋puj膮ca w cenniku lub konfiguratorze, np. "[S2] Przygotowanie pod telefon GSM I" 2. Jeden w膮tek powinien dotyczy膰 jednej opcji wyposa偶enia dost臋pnej w cenniku lub konfiguratorze. ipwrslv Posty: 2 Rejestracja: 20 cze 2020, o 12:17 Samoch贸d: Inny Silnik: Inny Trwa艂o艣膰 TSI vs TDI Zapytalem w temacie o spalaniu ale pytanie szybko zgubilo sie w tlumie wiec moze warto osobny temat. A jak wyglada kwestia trwalosci aktualnych poprawionych i Czego sie spodziewac przy przebiegach 200tys km i wiecej? Rozwazam zakup nowego Superb Sportline na dluzszy czas, wiec moge spokojnie przebic 200tys km, wiadomo w dluzszym okresie czasu diesel sie bedzie bardziej oplacac, ale TSI jest wiecej i przy odrobinie szczescia mozna bedzie TSI kupic duzo taniej niz TDI, widzialem juz porownywalne wypisazniem auta z roznica w cenie 20tys zl. Ma ktos do艣wiadczenie w eksploatacji i kosztach przy wi臋kszych przebiegach? Odpuscmy temat "starszych TSI" pijacych olej razem z paliwem grimson Posty: 78 Rejestracja: 31 pa藕 2019, o 21:44 Samoch贸d: Superb III 4x4 Facelift Silnik: (190KM) Re: Trwa艂o艣膰 TSI vs TDI Post autor: grimson 禄 10 pa藕 2020, o 19:20 Obie jednostki zacne, dopracowane. Raczej nie maj膮 s艂abych punkt贸w. Spalanie przy o艣ce ze wskazaniem na benzyn臋, tak samo jak potencjalne zawirusowanie. maureliusz Posty: 1407 Rejestracja: 18 sty 2019, o 13:13 Samoch贸d: Superb II 4x4 Silnik: (170KM) CFGB Aktualnie: 200KM / 398Nm Imi臋: Maro Lokalizacja: My艣lenice / wioska obok Re: Trwa艂o艣膰 TSI vs TDI Post autor: maureliusz 禄 11 pa藕 2020, o 09:39 Jak ma by膰 nowe i sam b臋dziesz dba艂 to wszystko 200kkm wytrzyma. Na wsp贸艂czesne auto 偶aden przebieg... zawsze mo偶esz trafi膰 na ten jeden na milion wadliwy;-) Ja m贸wimy o nowym TSI, nie 偶艂opi膮cym olej... to nawet bym si臋 nie zastanawia艂! 1. Osi膮gi i dynamika 2. Ciepe艂ko zim膮 szybko 3. Ekologia Ci臋 nie dotknie... zapewne b臋d膮 oboszczenia TDI na plus: 2. Lepsze do holowania przyczepy Ps. Ale tylko 4x4 Wys艂ane z mojego Redmi 5 przy u偶yciu Tapatalka Nie ogl膮daj si臋 na innych. R贸b swoje. Najlepiej jak potrafisz.
2.0 tsi vs 2.0 tdi